This week we are welcoming in a chat with a gent merging UK Rap with Electronic & Punk, Jason Williamson vocalist from The Sleaford Mods is today’s special guest.
In this chat we’re talking up front and personal on his influences within Hip Hop and rap, his alternative music roots, the increasing social issues raised on the Mods more recent release “Nudge It” 🔥👌🏻 working with the legendary Dance production outfit Orbital with the Sleaford Mods latest release “I Don’t Rate You” Remix, Drug addiction, new U.K. touring and more.. 🔥♥️🔥 This is Jason Williamson’s, Sleaford Mods

KILLA KELA: I would describe Sleaford Mods as a 90s cluster of mixed genres, the people’s choice a cult classic. Would that be an accurate way to describe the band? 

JASON WILLIAMSOM: I mean it’s really quite hard to define but I think you’ve kind of nailed it. I don’t really know what it is half the time. I think you just try and put in what really appeals to you through music and you’re right in the sense that it crosses lots of avenues. We try to take from each of those streets for the final product but yeah, it’s generally dictated by street stuff really good punk music, good rap, good grime.

KILLA KELA: you have a very relatable tone in the way you deliver your verses. I would even call them bars because it really has a up hip-hop, task force era, audio bully’s vibe to it.

JASON WILLIAMSOM: People always say oh we are post punk but no I was predominantly motivated by rap, I just saw that as an approach to vocals that needed to be explored more and to be adopted more, bring it more into a kind of mixed arena. I don’t think I’m a rapper by any stretch of the imagination, but I follow that approach where it’s bars chorus back into the bars. I like good rappers but, I don’t think I’m quite there. I would say though I am in the arena.

KILLA KELA: Hip-hop is such a relevant powerhouse isn’t it, What your feelings on the hip hop and rap scene overall?

JASON WILLIAMSOM:  it’s a difficult one. I’m getting sick of just the way a lot of it is, but at the same time it’s like that in itself is political because who really seriously wants to brag about what they own. I think it’s kind of reverse psychology almost.   people are gonna rap about what’s most offensive at the time, like punk used to be. it’s like a new form of offensive lyrics. but I do find I’m struggling with it.

KILLA KELA: what’s your process of creating?

JASON WILLIAMSOM: The words are paramount; the words steer it. if the words are bulletproof then they’ll find a way onto whatever piece of music. You could just say one word and that one word will sound brilliant and then you need to add other words to it to keep that effect going. it’s a bit like fishing in it you know once you’ve got something you’re pulling it up and you’re thinking about what to do next. 

KILLA KELA: I get a sense that with your music there’s a real downbeat melancholic dissonant sound to a lot of it. What are your influences?

JASON WILLIAMSOM: In Nottingham you know there’s a big hip-hop scene.  I was predominantly inspired east coastal rap where it’s sociological and political it’s not just bragging about guns and whatever.  they were rhyming but they were also shouting a lot of time too, you know just just gobbing off and it’s like yeah, I’m gonna do that but I’m gonna do it in the way I talk. 

KILLA KELA:  What are your inspirations when it comes to song writing

JASON WILLIAMSOM: the inspiration comes wherever, and it just hangs on to your memory band you know whether it’s in your secondary memory or your long term. I tend to write lyrics on the spot. I find that if I labour too much over them, they’d become forced. if you just dash them out and don’t really care about them, almost treat them with a bit of disdain. a lot of the time you know I find life and the experience of life completely unacceptable, and I want to bring that across in the music, so I think the best way to do that is to not cover ability too much and just treat it with a little bit of you know arm’s length. if I’m going to sit there and worry too much about writing politically motivated lyrics I faulter. I don’t want to do that I want to do stuff that is suggests things that sits on the surface but is bulletproof. And I think it can be achieved by simply a loving it and being honest with yourself.

KILLA KELA:  What would you say is your formula for success?

JASON WILLIAMSOM:  I feel like I got lucky. I worked hard and yeah and then it just happened. I started to be honest with myself and just being a little bit braver about things and thinking I’m going to take a risk here; I’m going to do this. when I found people, I could work with that didn’t mind helping me out with my ideas then I started to flourish. 

I didn’t think the music would leave leave Andrew’s flat I mean the goal was getting a bit of respect from local musicians and people in general around Nottingham. when we started getting that, it was great but then when it started moving to places like Belgium, France, and Germany nobody could believe it.

KILLA KELA:  You are about to embark on tour, what is your process for preparing for that?

JASON WILLIAMSOM:  Work just start rehearsing, relentless rehearsing for two months before gigs.  if you’ve got new stuff to learn I tend to start rehearsing two and a half months before so I can nail the new stuff. 

The best advice I was given was to overcome the fear. If you do that, you’ll be all right. you’ve just got to get on there and usually two or three songs into it you feel good you feel better about it.  there might be some really hairy moments but if you fuck it up you fuck up you just start again and that’s what we literally do.