KILLA KELA: Most people know you from Luck & Neat, but you were also a Graffiti writer back in the day, correct?

DJ LUCK: I love graffiti and that’s where it all started really. I’m not a piecer I’m a tagger.  I want people to know what taggers go through because no one really talks to taggers, no one really understands it.

KILLA KELA: It really is its own culture, isn’t it?

DJ LUCK: It’s like two separate worlds. If you’ve done a yard and battered a train and you’ve done it too much, you’re going to put the train out the next day. If they didn’t have time to clean it, it’s only gonna be on a couple days. That’s the sort of things people doesn’t really talk about. Tagging is as important as piecing. There’s something very warming about a tag particularly if you’ve got in a real kind of stamp, stamp, repeat, repeat you get used to a certain name it becomes your part of your home the the walk and route you take from somewhere. 

KILLA KELA: How did the name Luck come about?

DJ LUCK: When I used to do the interviews for the music, they say how did you get Luck and I go I was just kind of lucky. Back then it wasn’t it people were still doing graffiti and it was the faux pas. I couldn’t really say oh yeah, I’m a tagger and that’s why people call me luck.

KILLA KELA: You are good friends with Steam (T.U.) right? 

DJ LUCK:  I’ve known Steam since I was 12. so, I’d say well yeah so, I know him I’m 46 now so I know him a good 30 odd years. I stuck with a few people from to and I never got involved with anyone else. When I started getting into the music he wrote he was still with me when I was doing the music.

KILLA KELA: Tell me about your debut on Top of the Pops?

DJ LUCK: Steam would always be with us wherever we go anyway. we’re just good friends, we just we’re hanging out and obviously they’re enjoying our journey with us the same way I enjoyed his graff journey with him. We went to top of the pops probably 30 man strong they had never seen nothing like it in their life. I’m on the decks neat down there no one said nothing, I’ve looked behind me and steam standing behind me with a bulletproof vest. he just wanted to be there and he’s my pal .

KILLA KELA:  talk to me about going out on graff missions and what that would entail?

DJ LUCK:  Iwas so young I’d have to tell my Mum I was sleeping somewhere else like at Dave’s house or whatever. I’d say to here I’m getting a McDonald’s about nine and then I’m just gonna go to bed about ten. What I’d really be doing is track walking. Get on the tracks and then just walk from one station and just walk to about six stations just hitting the walls or whatever just walk until the cans ran out. I enjoyed it and it was something that I took seriously it wasn’t a joke. It’s always trying to get your tag in the most ridiculous place so it wouldn’t be taken off. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been on the shoulders or someone who’s six foot plus so I could write something up there. 

KILLA KELA: Graffiti is really a whole lifestyle, isn’t it?

DJ LUCK: It’s not only about pieces. It’s about tagging too. There is a lot of dangers and the things that we went through, I could have died too many times.  I just love being on trains, But I mean a lot of people have lost their lives from doing these things. But overall, the whole thing is just a huge buzz.

This week we are opening the vaults into the world of the notorious London Graffiti crew The Untouchables, courtesy of one of the most unlikely of sources. Before the 90’s UK Garage music explosion, DJ Luck (of DJ Luck & MC Neat) was a fully paid up Graff bomber of the Untouchables crew. In this extremely rare gem of a podcast, we are talking to Luck very specifically about being inside TU & his time in Graff, his early years before he was a DJ, Bombing, Tagging, London, his close and personal friendship with Steam TU, and the influence of the original London Graffiti kings prior to his commercial success. It doesn’t get more documented than this, this is DJ Luck’s Podcast